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#1 2019-04-23 17:18:46

Spoonwood
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Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

Murder attracts griefers and encourages people to care about their lineages less.  Since Jason wants people to care about their lineages more, murder should get removed from the game.


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#2 2019-04-23 17:19:23

Booklat1
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

lol no

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#3 2019-04-23 17:26:03

jasonrohrer
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

Go play 2HOL for a few hours and get back to me.

You can't have laws without killing....

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#4 2019-04-23 17:28:57

Tarr
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

You're being a goober. Not all murder = griefing. It's easy to deal with the type who go around and kill because guess what?

You can kill them. The issue lies in the fact either people don't want to learn to defend themselves or refuse to take out the idiot doing all the killing.

You don't follow people with weapons into the wilderness, you don't let someone with an unholstered bow stand in the berry field, and you don't let twins go nameless. Players have the power to stop trolls with murder just as trolls have the ability to grief with murder. The only issue is there's no real punishment for being murdered in the first place.

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#5 2019-04-23 17:32:03

futurebird
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Registered: 2019-02-20
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

no no no no no no no no no no no

Oh no. No way.

If you use the game to force people to be nice it's just hecking farmville or something. There is no meaning to the CHOICE that most people make not to kill not to cause chaos, but rather to help. I don't even think there should be no griefers as long as towns have a fighting chance it's fine.

Being helpful and productive has no meaning if it isn't something that you choose to do.

Likewise using artificial means to try to cause fights is also kind of annoying (FWIW I DON'T think fences are forcing people to fight they are OK, but limited in how useful they are.)


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#6 2019-04-23 17:33:14

Spoonwood
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

jasonrohrer wrote:

Go play 2HOL for a few hours and get back to me.

You can't have laws without killing....

Your request ignores game dynamics, and suggests that you don't care to think enough about game dynamics enough to encourage people to care about lineages.

Suppose one of the fertile females breaks the law.  She ends up getting killed, to enforce the law.  Lineage now has a greater problem with surviving.  People would care less about lineages surviving with laws, because law breakers become evil (really sub-human... that is the way prisoners get treated... people get DISOWNED in the real world) instead of valued family members.

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#7 2019-04-23 17:45:21

Booklat1
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

Tarr wrote:

You don't follow people with weapons into the wilderness

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#8 2019-04-23 17:46:32

Dodge
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Registered: 2018-08-27
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

@Spoonwood Boring

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#9 2019-04-23 18:48:02

Solbusaur
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

NooOOoO
Murder prevents griefers more than it attracts them! Kick em out of town for 3 hours!


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#10 2019-04-23 19:47:03

pein
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Re: Murder Should Get Removed from the Game.

The amount of "you a murdurur' people is too damn high.
Yesterday i was pissed cause some mother named all kids dumb name, and some kids got packs with knives, and huge pop where was sure we starve so i was trolling a bit, planting berry every plot, left unwatered, property fences aroudn town until i starved

who cared? no one
one guy suicided cause the town was very messy , a lot of kid did that too
wasn't bad spot, had oil right near and decent resources, but the town was already in ruins. no punish
sure it wasn't that big deal, it was already a mess
but sometimes i test out what can get away with and it's troubling, you can only understand griefers if you become a griefer

with kills i still got the same opinion
i kil a lot but most of that people arent useful, are dangerous, and rather act early and get rid of them
now if you kill someone you need hot clothes, eat before, stand on a fire
still has more chance it gets you cursed to kill the bear poking dumb old female or someone who sponges on you for a life creating drama, then them who don't contribute anything
not all kills are bad, and you arent a good player if you cant defend yourself, the loved ones, the town

cause you can blame griefers cause they assholes, cause they like this or that, sometimes they do it for revenge
if they are a better player, faster, knowledge of the tech tree, they can either help you make nice things or ruin everything very fast

so you got problem with someone killing people? you can kill them just as fast by cutting the compost cycle and hoarding everything into a private property, doing stupid stuff without asking will result into more SID kids, poking a bear kills multiple people
so you curse the one who kills for a reason like this?


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