Yum Survey

lychee · 2019-05-12 16:21:22

Quick snapshot survey! Questions:

1. Are you pro-yum or pro-time-efficiency (e.g. eat pies only)?

2. How high does your Yum Chain get on an average play session?

3. What jobs/activities do you perform most frequently when you play?

Last edited by lychee (2019-05-12 16:36:49)

futurebird · 2019-05-12 16:39:32

1. Pro. But I don't like that breaking the yum chain is so easy.
2. About 8-12. Higher if I'm in a big town with cooking.
3. I mostly gather iron, milkweed, build pumps, make carts and buckets, smith etc.

IMO

berry
berry
bread
Skim Milk
Kraut
Carrot pie
Stew
Mutton pie
Popcorn
Whole milk

should not be twice as good as:

berry
bread
Skim Milk
Kraut
Carrot pie
berry
Stew
Mutton pie
Popcorn
Whole milk

These should be the same level of yum. I don't like how the system makes you stressed about what to eat next, so, if I'm in a pinch I just break the chain. Can't be bothered to go to extremes to keep it going.

I focus on yum much more if I'm a woman.

Last edited by futurebird (2019-05-12 16:40:23)

wondible · 2019-05-12 17:06:30

1. I yum when I can but don't stress over it.
2. Probably x3, maybe x6 if I'm going in and out of town getting both made and wild foods.
3. Whatever seems needed; often carrots, milkweed, stew & crops, baking, pottery, hunting for iron.

I have been doing a private server recently and being well dressed with a safe food supply, I get over x10 most lives, which is really nice.

Spoonwood · 2019-05-12 17:45:13

I think that yum is pro-time efficiency in general (though not really as an Eve for example where yum is difficult and kind of spread out... +1 or +2 yum is not pro time efficiency, +10 yum is pro time efficiency). Yum is not always pro-water or soil efficiency, though it can be depending on what you eat and how high your yum goes.

When I play on bigserver2 pretty much the same as futurebird, though I have farmed some, fixed berry fields, and made clothes for my children and sometimes others. Though if I'm male and plan on gathering out in the wild mostly, I'll just give up on yum or not worry about it so much and eat wild foods instead. If I'm female, I'm around camp, so then I yum.

When Eve chaining, other than the first life or two, it's more like 15 yum every life, or 13, however high it gets it lasts my whole life unless I mess up. Also, then, I'm doing every single job and activity, including road building.

Also, you can yum off of pies... doing so while Eve-chaining where you can keep the pies organized comes as the quickest way to get my yum up in my experience, since you can cook 7 of the 8 pies before steel tools and some other nice things like popcorn and stew. Throw in a stew pot on the same fire, and farm for berries and carrots, and that can give me berry, berry in a bowl, carrot, shucked corn, green beans, stew, + 7 pie types, which pretty much gives me enough for lifelong yum with some wild food thrown in there.

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Jk Howling · 2019-05-12 19:12:19

1. I support yum and will chain if there are foods readily available for such, but won't go out of my way to make inefficient or obscure foods just for the sake of another +1. In fact, my support for yum has been dwindling lately because of the "yum elitists" who screech and rave and praise how good a shitty food is for the bonus with no regards to the time and resources put into it. It's annoying.

And before you start typing Spoonwood, please don't.

2. Probably around 5-6. I'll chain off anything available or can be made quickly, and often tend to play in eve camps, so my food choice is usually pretty limited. Best case scenario, I'll have wild foods [banana, wild carrot, burdock, wild onion] and a few crops/early foods [berry, berry in bowl, carrot, omelette, sometimes popcorn or stew].

3. Whatever the camp needs at the time. Like I said, I usually tend to play early eve camps, so it can range from getting the first farm set up, to hunting rabbits and gathering clothing, to collecting iron and forging the first tools, to building the sheep pen. Usually its rabbit hunting for me though. I like clothing the village.

Last edited by Jk Howling (2019-05-12 19:12:29)

Spoonwood · 2019-05-13 00:35:36

Jk Howling wrote:

In fact, my support for yum has been dwindling lately because of the "yum elitists" who screech and rave and praise how good a shitty food is for the bonus with no regards to the time and resources put into it. It's annoying.
And before you start typing Spoonwood, please don't.

Except the arguments I've posted that 'shitty foods' don't exist, except the mushroom... seriously I experimented a lot with those and would still lose too much time on server12 in my own camp, it's not worth it... don't concern efficiency so much as fertility.

HimitsuGato · 2019-05-13 01:06:01

1. I am a yum worshiper. I can't remember the last game I didn't live my whole life on one chain. (I do not eve often)

2. My average yum chain is around 15, higher if I don't feel like wearing good clothes. I've never felt like I've gone out of my way to chase yum, the most I will do is cook mutton or omelettes if I'm in a pinch. It's important to note, I usually twin with my gf and we bring eachother unique foods.

3. Lately with the water changes, I've been trying to learn how to do diesel engines from memory, if I feel like there is no specific job is needed. Most of the time I try to do what the town needs most to survive, eg compost, iron, baking, mass soup, or just fetching bucket after bucket of water. If nothing is needed (read: very rarely), I devote my life to exotic foods and teaching their recipes.

pein · 2019-05-13 02:31:51

funny but i proposed the system which became YUM
the original is in stronghold crusader where you can give quarter, half, normal, double rations form apple, cheese, bread and meat
generally you cant produce meat only buy it
and doesn't worth producing both apple and cheese, cheese coems with cow hides and dead cows which are a battle advantage, pig style fight (fast medium durability mêlée units and durable crossbow archers, with ability to catapult dead cows into town to infect them)

it made a good system because you could reduce rations but increase the variety

the point of Yum was to increase variety and be better than just eating berries all the time
still we eat much more berries than other

some people became heavy yummers, some tried it out and realized it doesn't worth it

yum should be a city wide bonus, food variety would mean that everyone can reach 10 if they want to, ot that some people make 1 food of each than they got 15 while others chain 2-3 only

to answer the question:
i don't like uncapped yum and i lose more time yumming then creating more food and not yumming
and it's pretty much the same result always: when i did cars or more complex projects like pens or buildigns, im a male eating pies or whatever i find
too much to keep in mind and fragments your gameplay, if you forgot what you working on or just yum and don't do the required things then you don't deserve the clothes you got and the trust others placed in you, people who yum and cant realize the town needs new bowls, are useless
it just a selfish behavior

for females i kidna agree but when you see is trouble, you got plenty food anyway and you can bring the female new types

i chain whatever we got ready, generally the berry from bowl and from hand then stew and pies, if it's easy to chain i will do it, so around 5-8 generally

i built a lot of pens and do lot of compost, generally working on tech if i can, it varies, if i do hats, then i do bread and compost, milkweed farm and a big batch of pies. if i smith, then i increase the water generation, or maybe get a horse and get iron, ropes, rubber, etc.
generally i leave much more than i use up so it's fair to eat more often and save time by not optimizing 100% for food efficiency
yum can save time but not when you run 200 tiles to eat an onion, when you go for iron and eat an onion
not when you make a pole to eat one fish, maybe when your kid gets multiple fishes for everyone

jason made item surveys lately, he could make a resource calculation for the whole city
like each 10 min show the food and other resources, maybe stockpiles and food table/granary
that way variety could be tracked, if a city produces more types then deserves a bit of a buff over others who dont
that's the point, variety for everyone not unique food for one person

Thaulos · 2019-05-13 02:58:37

1. I'm a pro-yum.

2. I don't always yum high unfortunately. I try to do it as high as I can with what I have available but unless we need babies I don't go out of my way to make new stuff. I usually play on eve camps and try to get it at least to 6 or 8 before needing to restart. If I'm fertile and town needs more children I'll go up to 16 in a life and stand by the fire.

In those situations I'll usually go with the following foods in no particular order:
1. berry
2. berry in bowl
3. carrot
4. wild carrot
5. wild onion
6. burdock
7. banana
8. cactus fruit
9. carrot pie
10. berry pie
11. rabbit pie
12. berry carrot pie
13. berry rabbit pie
14. carrot rabbit pie
15. carrot carrot rabbit pie
16. cooked rabbit
17. omelette

I'll cut off on the pies or wild foods if I have stew/mutton/corn/green beans available.

3. I've spend a considerable amount of time organizing/zoning and farming the past few weeks. I usually go for iron at least once per life as well unless I'm needed in town for some emergency. There is usually always someone on cooking and smithing so unless something more advanced like newcomen stuff is needed or if town is low on food I I usually leave those tasks to whoever is there already.

Last edited by Thaulos (2019-05-13 02:59:34)

Bob 101 · 2019-05-13 03:42:39

Depends, As a women yum gives you lots of babies. Sometimes that's good but not always.

But as a dude not really, Couple pies lasts plenty and are easy to mass produce.

Last edited by Bob 101 (2019-05-13 04:25:10)

BladeWoods · 2019-05-13 08:15:04

When young and old I think it actually is more time efficient to yum, because you have a tiny foodbar otherwise.

When female I always yum. Can go 3 to 60 on one chain, but my average is probably only 10-12 yum.
When male I do what's convenient.

I vary what I do a lot. Will do whatever is needed, but often I work as a janitor.

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