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#1 2019-07-07 10:03:24

HumboldtStoneHoe
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Place your vegetables, Jason

Place your vegetables
The vegetables I discuss - tomatoes, tomatoes and peppers, they are the only means of wasting water and sink, and are used only for salsa preparation. In real life, tomatoes can be used onions or bulbs used as apples or used for salads.
There is no reason to introduce a new mechanism when faced with such challenges. You can boast of "rough edges" in the epic, which is capable of delivering epic "flavor", but if you really value a stupid realistic aesthetic, adding wise goals to that, it just creates ways to suffer!


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#2 2019-07-07 11:10:08

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

Those could be solved simply by introducing further recipes smile


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#3 2019-07-07 11:32:50

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

Amon wrote:

Those could be solved simply by introducing further recipes smile

I agree with that it could only be broken by adding recipes to the use of vegetables, but this problem is that we want to add "sharp edges" to Jason so that we can fight for other reasons, not to hurt our life. Here it is better to look for a modded society, rather than a "dumb" vision or something.
Adding more recipes to this could add more opportunities to farmers, and provide more opportunities for farmers to work; Earn everyone.


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#4 2019-07-07 14:00:45

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

I think jason needs to make edible ingedients edible, add new recipes and counterbalance this by nerfing the way yum works.

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#5 2019-07-07 14:29:08

Amon
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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

Well, I don't see how such a thing is contrary to a vision. Buildings a good environment that fosters intriguing inter-player behaviour is an interesting goal to pursue afterall.
Food, recipes, things like that, one can replace it with anything else weather it's a corndog or a hard boiled egg.


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#6 2019-07-07 14:30:08

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

mrbah wrote:

I think jason needs to make edible ingedients edible, add new recipes and counterbalance this by nerfing the way yum works.

Maybe if only prepared foods increased the yum multiplier.

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#7 2019-07-07 14:31:39

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

He could just make tomato/onion/pepper edible with 1 pipe food value. That would be less impactful than the gene update.


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#8 2019-07-07 15:09:22

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

He could just make them edible but NoOooOoOoOoOoO, muh "rough edges"


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#9 2019-07-07 16:23:49

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

HumboldtStoneHoe wrote:

He could just make them edible but NoOooOoOoOoOoO, muh "rough edges"

I don't know what you mean by "rough edges."

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#10 2019-07-07 16:53:45

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

https://imgur.com/a/2ZNPvyK
third time i post this, hopefully its readable


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#11 2019-07-07 17:21:10

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

AdelaSkarupa wrote:

Maybe if only prepared foods increased the yum multiplier.

Or if only each ingredient counted towards the nutrition, aka yum. That way you could only get yum from a gooseberry once, for instance, and if you ate a 'berry carrot rabbit' pie, it would give 3, 4 or even 5 yum, if you included the wheat and the water in the dough. Then any source of berry, carrot, rabbit, or wheat, would no longer count towards your nutrition.
If that leads to too many things being off limits, maybe do away with losing the bonus if you eat something twice?

I'll tell you what though, I eat raw tomatoes every week, and a raw onion does not phase me. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to eat them raw, or even, in their chopped form. This summer, one of my favorite things to cook on the grill has been whole, unpeeled, onions. I leave them on there till the dry papery outer layer gets charred and the juices begin to spit out the top, then I let em cool for a few minutes, peel that outer layer off and the inside... oh it's so good. It's like an onion ring, but without all that oil and batter on it, except it's the whole onion, caramelized in it's own juices. It's really good, if you like onions of course. If you try it, just be sure the juice is basically boiling out of the top of the onion, once it gets to that point, give it a few more minutes of heat then let it sit for about five minutes before you peel off the outer layer and enjoy. I do it with small yellow onions, about the size of a racket ball, maybe a tennis ball, and they shrink down a little after 10 to 15 minutes on the grill (time really depends on the conditions they're prepared) then I remove the burnt outer later, let em cool and just pop the whole thing in my mouth like a big cherry tomato.

I also eat all peppers raw, most of the time, but I'm the kind of person who will just buy anything I see in the produce section and eat it raw. Ate a whole raw eggplant last year, that was fun. The skin was like a fine leather, biting into it was pretty satisfying; really spongy inside, but once you're through the skin, it just tears open.

I really wish there were apples in this game. Raw apples, apple pie, heck, maybe even some cider.
Yeap, now I want some apple cider.

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#12 2019-07-07 17:30:51

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

testo wrote:

He could just make tomato/onion/pepper edible with 1 pipe food value. That would be less impactful than the gene update.

Everything gets +2 right now, if I recall, so, like, popcorn, is +1, but because of the global +2 to all food, it's +3.

Imagine if he dropped that global down to +1, or even took it away entirely.
Now that'd be a challenge.

People sure would value omelettes a lot more.

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#13 2019-07-07 17:32:54

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

For me, I wonder if this is a step toward culture. It would be interesting if, somewhere down the line, we had distinct cultures in different places. Normally culture comes from language, but it also comes from art and food and clothing. If there is some way, early on, to choose a culture path, so that if you make salsa, you then can’t make marinara or tikka masala. But you could trade!


Yum. Yum. Yum. Meh.

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#14 2019-07-07 18:27:17

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

LaughAtlantis wrote:

For me, I wonder if this is a step toward culture. It would be interesting if, somewhere down the line, we had distinct cultures in different places. Normally culture comes from language, but it also comes from art and food and clothing. If there is some way, early on, to choose a culture path, so that if you make salsa, you then can’t make marinara or tikka masala. But you could trade!

I hope not. In the town where I live, I can get American, Chinese, Hmong, Vietnamese, French, Italian, Indian food and more. I would hate to have to go to another town to get another kind of food. Even worse in-game.

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#15 2019-07-07 20:25:05

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

Morti wrote:
AdelaSkarupa wrote:

Maybe if only prepared foods increased the yum multiplier.

Or if only each ingredient counted towards the nutrition, aka yum. That way you could only get yum from a gooseberry once, for instance, and if you ate a 'berry carrot rabbit' pie, it would give 3, 4 or even 5 yum, if you included the wheat and the water in the dough. Then any source of berry, carrot, rabbit, or wheat, would no longer count towards your nutrition.
If that leads to too many things being off limits, maybe do away with losing the bonus if you eat something twice?

I'll tell you what though, I eat raw tomatoes every week, and a raw onion does not phase me. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to eat them raw, or even, in their chopped form. This summer, one of my favorite things to cook on the grill has been whole, unpeeled, onions. I leave them on there till the dry papery outer layer gets charred and the juices begin to spit out the top, then I let em cool for a few minutes, peel that outer layer off and the inside... oh it's so good. It's like an onion ring, but without all that oil and batter on it, except it's the whole onion, caramelized in it's own juices. It's really good, if you like onions of course. If you try it, just be sure the juice is basically boiling out of the top of the onion, once it gets to that point, give it a few more minutes of heat then let it sit for about five minutes before you peel off the outer layer and enjoy. I do it with small yellow onions, about the size of a racket ball, maybe a tennis ball, and they shrink down a little after 10 to 15 minutes on the grill (time really depends on the conditions they're prepared) then I remove the burnt outer later, let em cool and just pop the whole thing in my mouth like a big cherry tomato.

I also eat all peppers raw, most of the time, but I'm the kind of person who will just buy anything I see in the produce section and eat it raw. Ate a whole raw eggplant last year, that was fun. The skin was like a fine leather, biting into it was pretty satisfying; really spongy inside, but once you're through the skin, it just tears open.

I really wish there were apples in this game. Raw apples, apple pie, heck, maybe even some cider.
Yeap, now I want some apple cider.

I agree, I too eat raw tomatoes because they're delicious and a good snack in summers and putting a raw vegetable into your mouth is possible. Jason however focuses on the big things while ignoring tiny details like these.


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#16 2019-07-08 00:23:39

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

HumboldtStoneHoe wrote:

https://imgur.com/a/2ZNPvyK
third time i post this, hopefully its readable

Is this fake?
Can't find that post.

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#17 2019-07-08 00:33:52

HumboldtStoneHoe
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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

Léonard wrote:
HumboldtStoneHoe wrote:

https://imgur.com/a/2ZNPvyK
third time i post this, hopefully its readable

Is this fake?
Can't find that post.

Tarr posted it


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#18 2019-07-08 01:34:55

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

HumboldtStoneHoe wrote:

...big things... tiny details...

It's all tiny details.
Every day.
Every person.
Every line.
A tiny detail.

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#19 2019-07-08 01:45:22

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

You've been trying too hard, thinking too much. Relax. Trust your instincts. Just be yourself. Do the little things, and the big things take care of themselves.


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#20 2019-07-08 03:53:01

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

Morti wrote:
testo wrote:

He could just make tomato/onion/pepper edible with 1 pipe food value. That would be less impactful than the gene update.

Everything gets +2 right now, if I recall, so, like, popcorn, is +1, but because of the global +2 to all food, it's +3.

Imagine if he dropped that global down to +1, or even took it away entirely.
Now that'd be a challenge.

People sure would value omelettes a lot more.

But CMM had it with no +2 on its server and it worked pretty good. While challenging it was´t as big as a deal.


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#21 2019-07-08 14:01:31

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

testo wrote:
Morti wrote:
testo wrote:

He could just make tomato/onion/pepper edible with 1 pipe food value. That would be less impactful than the gene update.

Everything gets +2 right now, if I recall, so, like, popcorn, is +1, but because of the global +2 to all food, it's +3.

Imagine if he dropped that global down to +1, or even took it away entirely.
Now that'd be a challenge.

People sure would value omelettes a lot more.

But CMM had it with no +2 on its server and it worked pretty good. While challenging it was´t as big as a deal.

yes


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#22 2019-07-08 17:32:31

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Re: Place your vegetables, Jason

testo wrote:

But CMM had it with no +2 on its server and it worked pretty good. While challenging it was´t as big as a deal.

They also cut the food usage rate in half. That said I wouldn't worry about reducing bonus too much in a town, just in an eve setup.


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