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#1 2018-04-09 16:51:43

Anshin
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Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

I completely understand why the "sexual" part of reproduction is left out of the game, and that the immaculate conception of Eves is to show the general idea of reproduction by them skipping to the having children part.

How about men can have children too?
And we can sometimes spawn as Adams?

Having children as a general concept is something both women and men do.
It would prevent the male infanticide, and allow men to have family lines too.

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#2 2018-04-09 16:58:51

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Apparently "Trannies" is a "transphobic slur" and "hate speech directed at the transgender community".

1, Grow up
2, I'm not a community moderator, so i'm just another user, just like you. AND i don't represent Jason.

I will not name the two people who reported me, because even if I said """hate speech""", I'm not an asshole.

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#3 2018-04-09 17:05:11

InSpace
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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

It's called transgender or another appropriate term, act professional on a forum you moderate geez.

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#4 2018-04-09 17:06:49

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Somewhat similar idea I had, a man have to be in the vicinity of a woman before the women can start popping out babies. And Eves either are special (don't need men around to have) or Eves are spawned spawned with a paired Adam.

This could help create organized population control without wanton infanticide if communities set up men and women sections of town. When they want kids they can mingle a little until one pops out of the mom. Of course in practice that'd be hard to maintain XD

And now I'm imagined a guy walking into the women's section of town and all of a sudden there is an explosion of babies XD

Edit: I get the feeling this is probably already mentioned somewhere and not a new idea. Just saying I have thought of it.

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#5 2018-04-09 17:11:12

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Men in the game feel pretty useless. The only thing good about them is they can travel far without worry of popping out a kid. But at the earliest stage of starting a settlement, that doesn't help very much.
So, either have men help with producing children, or get rid of them all together. A world of all women sounds pretty nice.

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#6 2018-04-09 17:16:52

powa
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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

superBlast wrote:

Somewhat similar idea I had, a man have to be in the vicinity of a woman before the women can start popping out babies. And Eves either are special (don't need men around to have) or Eves are spawned spawned with a paired Adam.

This could help create organized population control without wanton infanticide if communities set up men and women sections of town. When they want kids they can mingle a little until one pops out of the mom. Of course in practice that'd be hard to maintain XD

And now I'm imagined a guy walking into the women's section of town and all of a sudden there is an explosion of babies XD

Edit: I get the feeling this is probably already mentioned somewhere and not a new idea. Just saying I have thought of it.

Yeah I think the problem is that currently Jason feels there are too many Eves spawning.  Higher requirements on birth would increase the Eve spawns.

Also, this puts more baby care strain on villages, where babies are often abandoned anyways.  I think this is better than wild Eve babies but whatever.

But if those issues ever get resolved, I think every Eve should only be able to spawn one child to simulate possible pregnancy from before the Eve left wherever they were born.  After that, she, like all other fertile females, should require some kind of contact with a man before the possibility to birth.

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#7 2018-04-09 17:18:30

Anshin
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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

It's not like the Eves start huffing and puffing to give birth... The baby spawning is generic to the idea of reproduction. For people that don't want babies there should be a cool-down temporary birth control, a plant you could pick and eat... perhaps a rubber tree.

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#8 2018-04-09 17:39:13

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Thexus wrote:

We will not have trannies.

Fuck you.

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#9 2018-04-09 18:34:54

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Id love to have some Adams, brim em on!


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#10 2018-04-09 18:45:07

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

In my opinion, asexual reproduction should end by the third generation of a family that spawned from a new eve.

Reproduction at that point should feature a male and a female exchanging an item or something to activate the ability of a female to reproduce. It would be cool if some new character models were added to represent the genetic mixture between existing male and female character models.

Lastly, if there are no males around and a lone third generation + woman wants to reproduce, then she should be able to eat some kind of a rare fruit or something to trigger asexual reproduction once again.

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#11 2018-04-09 18:47:35

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Portager wrote:

In my opinion, asexual reproduction should end by the third generation of a family that spawned from a new eve.

Reproduction at that point should feature a male and a female exchanging an item or something to activate the ability of a female to reproduce. It would be cool if some new character models were added to represent the genetic mixture between existing male and female character models.

Lastly, if there are no males around and a lone third generation + woman wants to reproduce, then she should be able to eat some kind of a rare fruit or something to trigger asexual reproduction once again.

That'd just mean alot, alot of incest. And dont get me wrong, I am the woman who always married her brother so im all for it but that might not be everyones cup of tea.


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#12 2018-04-09 18:49:36

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Aurora Aurora wrote:
Portager wrote:

In my opinion, asexual reproduction should end by the third generation of a family that spawned from a new eve.

Reproduction at that point should feature a male and a female exchanging an item or something to activate the ability of a female to reproduce. It would be cool if some new character models were added to represent the genetic mixture between existing male and female character models.

Lastly, if there are no males around and a lone third generation + woman wants to reproduce, then she should be able to eat some kind of a rare fruit or something to trigger asexual reproduction once again.

That'd just mean alot, alot of incest. And dont get me wrong, I am the woman who always married her brother so im all for it but that might not be everyones cup of tea.

They can go eat from the asexual tree smile

Jason really hasn't given us a choice at the moment, it is next to impossible to encounter anyone from outside your tribe in the post apocolypse.

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#13 2018-04-09 19:15:30

Go! Bwah!
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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Antichthon wrote:
Thexus wrote:

We will not have trannies.

Fuck you.

I like your style.


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#14 2018-04-09 19:57:05

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Go! Bwah! wrote:
Antichthon wrote:
Thexus wrote:

We will not have trannies.

Fuck you.

I like your style.

I still remember when they changed the tag in PornHub from Trannies to Transgender. That's all I wanted to say about that.


To op, all this "men are useless" threads always bother me. Men are a safe bet in terms of population control, theres only one and they live one hour and then they die and nothing else. With females you never know how many babies they'll spawn. Men aren't useless they provide consistency, one men one hour. With females it could be, one female, six babies. So to all of you saying men are useless in game, try to reconsider. IMHO men don't need any change. Having a lot of females is a good way to overpopulate, and to anyone arguing that you can just starve babies out, that's not something every player understands or considers in the moment. Making Adams as you suggest would be the same as removing men without removing the sprites.

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#15 2018-04-09 20:08:27

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

I find men to be as useful as women in the game. They can work more without worrying about giving birth often.

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#16 2018-04-09 22:28:53

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

OxPower wrote:

I still remember when

..we didn't baby the mentally ill people in our culture and they didn't run rampant over us trying to make us pretend they were healthy and sane.


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#17 2018-04-09 22:57:50

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Just an idea, not sure if it'd actually work. What if Adams got paired up with an Eve like they would be spawned next to each other if possible. I mean it could work with or without reproduction, either way, the eve might get some help rather than having to do all the work by herself and raise kids.

Idk, just a thought.


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#18 2018-04-10 08:42:10

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

I am kinda curious as to what the point of the men are. I mean, why not  just make the player character gender  neutral and just say we reproduce asexually...as seems to be the case? The men don't serve much purpose except for villages to go...'too many boys. You die' and start culling the boy children to get more girls.

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#19 2018-04-10 09:13:41

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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

Again Men have a use in being sterile. They can make long treks without have to deal with babies popping out. They can all work their whole life while the women have to juggle work and taking care of kids. And dedicated wet nurse isn't going to get as much work done to better the settlement.

On top of that, if dangerous animals need hunting or killed, send the boys because men are expendable. Griefer going about murdering? Send a man, because if they fuck up and die too? Oh well they are expendable. Need to make long treks into the dangerous wilderness with the possibility of starving or accidently stepping on a snake behind a tree (this happened to me once) send a man because, say it with me, men are expendable.

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#20 2018-04-10 13:20:16

Anshin
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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

superBlast wrote:

Again Men have a use in being sterile. They can [blah blah blah ...] men are expendable.

Women do all the same things, and ignoring babies amounts to exactly the same life as male players with the only difference being that males have no option to reproduce - ever. Sure that uselessness makes them expendable but only in so far as they shouldn't have been raised in the first place. With the new Eve spawning far away algorithm villages only survive by continuing their lineage which is so precarious that men, as the currently are, are always a burden.

Having men also become dads is more realistic than the current set up. The interesting dynamic is how they would have to feed a baby manually, or find the village wet nurse, since they can't breast feed. Becoming a parent should be an option for everyone.

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#21 2018-04-10 17:08:20

OxPower
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Re: Adams and men having children? - Bring on the Dads!

OxPower wrote:

To op, all this "men are useless" threads always bother me. Men are a safe bet in terms of population control, theres only one and they live one hour and then they die and nothing else. With females you never know how many babies they'll spawn. Men aren't useless they provide consistency, one men one hour. With females it could be, one female, six babies. So to all of you saying men are useless in game, try to reconsider. IMHO men don't need any change. Having a lot of females is a good way to overpopulate, and to anyone arguing that you can just starve babies out, that's not something every player understands or considers in the moment. Making Adams as you suggest would be the same as removing men without removing the sprites.


I'll just quote myself then, is that too narcissistic. Making men and women the same, removes variety from the game. Men have their benefits. The whole "women are like men but with the added benefit of having kids" is wrong. Whenever I spawn to a female that's hunting rabbits, she stops doing what she's doing, takes me back to camp, and shows me around before continuing with what she was doing. Ignoring babies is not something all players do. Men and women have different benefits, you're just not using your men effectively.

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