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#1 2020-03-08 19:31:11

Morti
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I surrounded this town in wells.

Any objections to doing this, to any town?
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Those were two examples of the way I laid out the area around the wells.
The one 200 east of town was in the jungle so I skipped it entirely.

When I got home, no one was there.

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The good things about this:

  • It increases the chance of anyone else finding the place using dry wells as an indication of civilization.
    We go from 9x9 area (360x360 meters), to 19x19 area (760x760 meters). And if we expanded it out again, it'd be 29x29 springs out, or , 1160x1160 meters.

  • The wells can be used when the towns deep well runs out.

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I managed to dig 7 wells in one life, with about 10 years of my time left to spare, and, that was with gathering enough pine needles in each area to surround the well and give an indication to whoever stumbled upon it, in what direction the town is. 8 would surround one and 16  would surround those inner 9. This could easily be done in 3 lives on foot, leaving town with just a shovel head in a backpack.

I think you could easily get 25 uses from that one shovel, if you wanted to dig all 25 wells with the same shovel, and just pick up where you left off, your next life in that family.

I want to know what you don't like about this idea, if anything.
Is it going to drain any tarry spots? Does making a well, dry the tarry spots in the 9x9 area around it, and vice versa?
I have a feeling it might, but it doesn't make much sense that oil and water are on the same system of drying out the spots for the other type of resource.

I know a lot of people don't bother to keep all wells lined up and compact into a grid, but it would maximize the amount of water we can get from this area.

If you go five east and two north and make a well there, now you have a messed up road, you mess up the whole grid, it's not easy to figure out where wet, natural, springs might be once that grid becomes erratic and disorganized. Yes, being trapped in a grid, may not be very, natural, for some people, you may want to start camps and towns based on the biome, and put a well there, I get that. But, ... I just like giant grids. Don't you? Most water per square kilometer. Nuff said, right?

Don't you like water?

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#2 2020-03-08 22:42:12

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Made wells around the ginger town, but there were already some a little farther out, in various directions, that screwed up the square and wasted space.
M is oil, L is the well of a decent little place, but 200, -200 would have been just fine, but no, had to go 160, -280...
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Ah well.
Ah, well...

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#3 2020-03-08 22:45:02

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Morti wrote:

Made wells around the ginger town, but there were already some a little farther out, in various directions, that screwed up the square and wasted space.
M is oil, L is the well of a decent little place, but 200, -200 would have been just fine, but no, had to go 160, -280...
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Ah well.
Ah, well...

I said 200, -200 would have worked, but, it was a tarry spot... I'm tired, been a long day.

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#4 2020-03-08 23:43:13

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Here is a code for you, it means the town i came from is five springs west, four spring north.
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I was Jim Goda this life.
All of those coords now have wells.

Nice to meet you, in game, jinbaili83.

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#5 2020-03-08 23:44:14

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Morti wrote:

All of those coords now have wells.

0,0 was Goda town
320,0 was black town, and the brown skins are not far east of the Goda's

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#6 2020-03-09 01:14:24

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Another Goda Town, this time I was Jackey Goda.
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B, -200, -200, was a tarry spot. The others are wells.

If the names of the coordinates don't make sense, this should help.

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That is what I am trying to stick to, sometimes I hit H for home or W for well at home though.
But, generally
Y is Northwest U is North I is Northeast
H is West J is Home K is East
B is Southwest N is South M is Southeast

Also, I'm sorry but some of your attempts at homes that have not managed to get the shovel and well - those springs you built by are dry. But, there are multiple wells now nearby those places, if you want to return to them. If I am born to one of those towns, where the farms are near a dry spring, I'll try to help make roads to the nearest wells.

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#7 2020-03-09 01:28:02

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Keep a stock of shovel heads near the smithy, I'll keep making the wells, till we get things straightened out with the families, bells and what not.

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#8 2020-03-09 12:08:54

sigmen4020
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Seems like a pretty neat strategy. Outside of just helping others find your town, they can also be used as emergency water supplies in case of a water shortage. Great job Morti.


For the time being, I think we have enough content.

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#9 2020-03-09 15:18:09

voy178
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Could you not just make an arrow in the direction of the town?

For northwest:

x x
x x
- - x
- - - W

For South:

- - - w
- - - x
- - x - x
- - - x

Or just put a waystone near?

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#10 2020-03-09 15:20:54

sigmen4020
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Just made use of one of your wells last life I was in the Goda fam collecting water.

Thank you for your efforts.

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For the time being, I think we have enough content.

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#11 2020-03-09 20:26:13

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

voy178 wrote:

Could you not just make an arrow in the direction of the town?

For northwest:

x x
x x
- - x
- - - W

For South:

- - - w
- - - x
- - x - x
- - - x

Or just put a waystone near?

Were you playing yesterday? As the water supply was crashing, in every town?
As people stood in the berry fields, naked, cold, filling up their food meters, popping out children, juggling those children, with the APM of Korean Starcraft players, and then devouring entire bushes before doing it again? Those naked children, knowing nothing more of the world than the actions of their mothers, repeating the same process along side them?

Arrows in the dirt, don't feed Slurm queens.

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#12 2020-03-09 22:23:15

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Isabel's New Town nearly surrounded with wells.
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It was strange, going around them, nothing had been explored, except, the east of the northeast corner. There the rabbits were already up.
I didn't get to the southeast corner, I spent the first ten minutes of life, making a backpack.

Why are the brown people being so elusive?
They're like that last little tribe in the Amazon, the little pygmies.
They must be colonized. They must be made, civil. They must, be put to work, in Fordlandia.

Mustn't they?

Don't we have a duty, as people, of the most technologically advanced cities and states, to bring them guns, helicopters and antibiotics?
To teach them the values, of consumerism, capitalism and indentured servitude, to the global market?

We can't just let them be happy, in the jungle, with their tattoos and bananas. What kind of Republic is that?
Their children deserve, nay, demand, the opportunity to be put on display in the finest Ivy League Colleges.
So that our children, may one day be served, by the finest Isabelese Doctors, and work high risk, low pay jobs, building our home, using opiates and driving automobiles that stand on rubber, harvested by young Isabelese children.

We must reach out to them. We can make a million dollar donation to Survival International, so the world thinks we're the good guys, then exploit our reputation, fund cocaine and coffee plantations through heavily laundered organizations, and make billions, off these people, and their lands.

But don't tell anyone that's what we're doing.

We go to them, because we care, about them.
That's all the media needs to know.

We must protect these indigenous people, as we tighten our grip, around the lands, they occupy.
We will do what we must, because, we can.

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#13 2020-03-10 01:43:54

Wuatduhf
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

The only flaw is someone will inevitably rip up your flooring and try to prevent people from navigating it proper.

Your best bet is getting that town a map, and then placing Waystones next to every well. They'd have to work extra hard to grief that off.


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#14 2020-03-10 16:14:10

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Wuatduhf wrote:

The only flaw is someone will inevitably rip up your flooring and try to prevent people from navigating it proper.

Your best bet is getting that town a map, and then placing Waystones next to every well. They'd have to work extra hard to grief that off.

If people settle at one of them, and they want a different arrangement for the floors, that's fine.

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#15 2020-03-13 17:43:46

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

J Argentina Family (Ginger) Home Well
U New Well
O Oil
M Well
K New Well
N Gold Family (White) Well
B New Well
G Jungle
T Jungle
Y New Well
X Well
Z Black Family Well
A Three Gold Nodes in Tundra
C Well
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#16 2020-03-13 18:39:22

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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

There are browns south-west from Argentina family (0,5k), Gay family.

I made oil pump (need only valve) between Argentinas and Gays (0,3k from ginger town).

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#17 2020-03-13 19:52:21

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

J Gay Home (Brown Skin)
D Dry
K Well with Farm
Z Oil
X New Well
C New Well
V Well with Farm
R Slinkey Family (Black Skin)
G One Gold Node
I Iron Node
L Well with Farm
P Gay Home, Brown Skin, Well with Farm
O Dry Tarry Spot
Y New Well
U New Well

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Thank you for providing intel Gogo. Can you place it on the map of the second image?

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#18 2020-03-13 22:02:26

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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

No, I'm not using coordinates with mod.
But.. this oil pump is near a well.

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#19 2020-03-13 22:28:43

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

No new wells this life, but I did find a few things worth noting.

J Gold Family Home
I Two Iron Nodes
H Deep Well with Tools
K Collapsed Iron Mine
G Gay Family Home
M Iron Node
R Iron Node
F Abandoned Shallow Well with Farm
L Tarry Spot
Q Well
Z Gay Town
X Tipped Horse Cart

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I'm trying to sync all this up with wondible's map, so I can start using global coordinates. Looks like we are near the origin, 0,0.

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I can't get the biomes right or the Argentina's to show on the map, it's still using a lot of old data, and it's limited for now.

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Oh well. Still, the Slinkey, Gold and Gay are all in the right place.

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#20 2020-03-13 22:32:00

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

So if you start at the Gold Family, go 240 east (6 springs) and 40 south (1 spring) and you should find the Origin, and perhaps be able to see the Tarr Monument (if that is still a thing).

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#21 2020-03-13 23:23:46

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Morti wrote:

So if you start at the Gold Family, go 240 east (6 springs) and 40 south (1 spring) and you should find the Origin, and perhaps be able to see the Tarr Monument (if that is still a thing).

Sure enough.

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#22 2020-03-13 23:59:17

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

I couldn't resist.

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The road west goes about 40 meters, minus that little patch of desert, through a jungle, so, be careful if you get on it.

I'll try to work on it over the next few lives, take it to the spring south of Gold Town.

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#23 2020-03-14 01:03:19

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Almost halfway to Gold Town (G) with the Tarr Highway.

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#24 2020-03-14 02:07:04

Morti
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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

So close I can see it.

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#25 2020-03-14 03:00:04

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Re: I surrounded this town in wells.

Just in time for the first snapshot

https://onemap.wondible.com/#x=0&y=0&z= … 1584147884


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