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Yes. There’s blaming failure on questionable mechanics like race restrictions, homeland, and smacking an engine in a box, but I fully agree that there’s also a huge responsibility for people to actually consider the nature of the game, in that teaching is and always has been a HUGE factor. The attitude that “someone else will do it”, which most of the playerbase seems to have now, is not good to have, because nothing gets done, or a couple of people end up doing all of the work. Newer players want to do things and help (in most cases).

Oh and just to clarify, griefing is the complete other side of that coin, because it disables new players from learning and even pushes them away from the game. There’s a few reasons why the player count has dropped, and I reckon that’s a pretty significant one.

Crumpaloo wrote:

JonySky wrote:

true!
I have not thought about the curses!
The frustration of new players is evident when in the Steam sales this game got an average of 75 players and 6 months later we have 47 ... nobody wants to play a boring and frustrating game

The game is purposefully un-intuitive to encourage teaching that isn't always available. As such if new players cant learn how to do anything in-game whats the point of playing it in the first place?

For those about to say "just go on onetech" you dont see RainbowSixSeige requiring players to go to a external website to know how the fundamentals of their game work.
All that does is push away casual players who are the main percentage of the current player-base.

ehhh but don´t worry... Coming soon: more loose speech character limits

Crumpaloo wrote:

I mean you COULD make a really big indoor farm, Jason added it so now it reads temperature in a 12x12 tile radius instead of the 8x8

Huh?  Last I knew all tiles had to be floored, and there's no way to floor farming tiles.

Also, 12x12 isn't the interior of a room.  At least, last I knew it was 6x6 for the interior of a room.

Has something changed?

For starters - I haven't been playing OHOL for a month, for since hell Eve. At one point, the game began to associate for me with strong negative feelings.
Only.
Survival at the expense of others is not a game for me. Playing consisting of continuous food and producing food is simply boring.

What Crumpaloo wrote is true. Jason only reacts to action, so complaining doesn't change anything.
The problem is that players complain but then adapt to Jason's stupid and harmful ideas.

Have you ever thought about players rebellion?
If all the veterans refrain from playing for a week, how will Jason react?
Maybe Jason is a deity of this world, but you can also rebel against God.
Wouldn't that be an interesting experiment. I'm just throwing an idea.

And I'm coming back to my town in 2HOL.

Ok Gomez PVP implies people are battling it out for resources or clout or whatever, we have an entirely separate element of teams that are dedicated to ragegriefing because we're mad about the designer's attitude toward criticism. I say we, because I joined one for the rift event, which was so unsuccessful that initially it got nothing but protest and after a length of time Jason eventually had to walk it back and pretend it had always been meant to be temporary. There are other veterans on the board who have been here since before an actual PVP dynamic was introduced with warswords who became protest griefers and went on murder sprees to prove the existence of something called "the griefer dance", a pattern of constant movement that would allow a player to murder others with impunity while making themself essentially immune because of bad game design, which took much longer than it should have to get a response.

In OHOL specifically, and I have only ever seen it in OHOL, players get mad at the designer's out of game behavior and then terrorize *other players* with a completely out-of-game purpose, irritating the designer by chasing other players away from the game. Other players can't do much about them and there are no moderators. Other players become an object that a greifer is using to try to hurt the designer. At no point in minecraft history did a significant number of players team up to drive playerbase away from minecraft with the goal of upsetting Notch after Notch repeatedly handwaved criticism of broken elements in minecraft exploitable by griefers that made it an unpleasant experience more often than not. That actually is a unique toxic element to OHOL.