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Oh boy...
Trust me, at least half of this community is glad Jason doesn't know how to fix this himself..

Glad there are still people around honest enough to admit that.

Quote form a recent steam review that I liked:

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Isn't that why Jason added the apocalypse in the first place?

I agree.

Though, as a tl;dr, my theory has always been that for such a thing to happen, we need more content.
So that people are less bored, have more incentive to stay and have a higher chance at specializing and so that the population can grow.
Though for a town to succesfully grow, we also need more content so that towns can properly organize themselves without living in an unbearable mess and so that food production can be optimized enough to sustain the growth.

See? More content.
That's what makes the latest updates so frustrating for me.
If Jason simply stuck with his initial premise of staying one step ahead of the players, then maybe, just maybe civilization, trade, property, prisons, etc.. would have naturally occurred.

Oh, let's also not forget a reason to care about your own family, so that people have a proper incentive to keep their city growing.
And, forgive me, but the war swords and restricted curses utterly failed at that.
It's painfully obvious people go "to war" just for the fun of it.
And this yet again supports my theory: people are fucking bored to death.
The new changes to Eves likely means more maxed out towns, compounded with limited lives means people are generally even more bored than before.
So they resort to genocide and raids to keep their mind away from boredom.
I admit I didn't touch the game in nearly 2 months but that's what my theory is on what's been happening recently given what I keep hearing.

I like how bob's other thread I linked also hints at this.

And 6 months later we're still at the iron age. Nice.

Only if you've played less than 2 hours.

Wow!
You totally showed him how wrong he was! Goteem!
Fuck him am I right

Yeah who would DARE suggest quality of life improvements..

That's interesting.

Did you know that by default the game does record demos?

I don't remember how many it keeps around but the folder can easily add up to a couple GBs because the demo files are literally in plain text (uncompressed, nice part of the engine I guess).

I disabled this a while ago myself but if you didn't touch any settings regarding demo recording yourself the demo should still be inside the "recordedGames" folder.
Anyone can play the demo back so if you could compress and upload it everyone could see what happened word for word.

Oh, my bad.

I must have read the OP a little too quickly there.
I thought this was mostly about player numbers since as you point out these readings happened over months.

Thanks for clarifying that.
That's totally on me for the confusion, sorry.

Well, I still maintain that I'd rather have the thread be about player numbers specifically rather than some update agenda.

But hey, at least I'm not the one who escalated the discussion by bringing up emotion into it.
You know, maybe people genuinely have criticism for the last update and have genuine reasons for disliking it.
And maybe they're tired of people strawmanning them and belittling their opinions into just "all you do is complain ", kind of like you're doing now...

I'm not saying the OP is innocent but you know you aren't either..

And this is relevant because... ?

First, you convince Jason that there's an issue in the first place.

Because that's the problem with him and every proponent of war swords.
They don't realize that problem, they'd rather strawman us into people who don't want violence at all whenever we make that point.

Jason sees that griefers literally scare people into building walls and thinks that's ok.
His rationalization is "well now you're building walls guys".

How can you seriously not see anything wrong with this kind of game designing?

I'd rather be a whiner than a useless "yesman" robot who doesn't think twice about anything.

See, I can do it to you as well.

I'm not.
But no mechanic is 1000 times better than a contrived one which is disliked so much you have to come in yourself and attempt to explain why it's rich.

This is proof that you don't bother to read people's criticism on this update.
I want you to seriously consider the possibility that your ego is blinding you through all this.

I couldn't care less about the game being more or less violent.
I care about why it is so.

What happened to all this captivating talk you had about emergence and the fact that human society came to be out of nothing, just being born on earth and poof here we are with governments?
What happened to that?

It seems one day you suddenly snapped and went crazy over the fact that property, war and trade weren't happening and have been forcing it in update after update after update.
Why didn't you listen to the community for feedback on how we could all make it happen naturally, like you had planned from the beginning?
Why do you instead relentlessly try to impose it upon us with contrived mechanics while calling them "rich" to our face?

This is the problem you have with your current approach.
You think of this as simple knobs to twist around, as if we were your lab rats.

This is the problem you refuse to see.

It's fine that you want to add diversity in the gameplay by making us think about different things.
The problem is why do we think about them in the first place?

Do we think of conflict as necessary and naturally arising over a crisis?
Like natural resources?

Or do we think of conflict as a contrived part of your game, where griefers simply come for no real reason breaking immersion on the way and kill us for nothing but the fun of it?
What happened to you saying you wanted to make murder real?
Giving it a real reason? Where is that real reason? I don't see it.

It seems one day you suddenly stopped asking the question of why was war not happening and decided to completely make up a reason for it and enforce it AND call it a rich mechanic on top of that.
You took the intellectually lazy road on this one, Jason. There's no doubt about it.
If wars were naturally happening out of necessity over resources or preservation of cultures, then I would actually agree and say your mechanics are rich.
But they're not.

This is ridiculous and I'm tired of it.
If my goal was to simply tell you you're an idiot, then I would do so and tell you and be done with it.
I feel insulted that you think the point behind my posts are that you're simply an idiot.

I come here and give you criticism for your game because I care about it, that is, at least I used to.
If I cared about it in the first place, that means you at least had something good.
That you have at least a minimum amount of intelligence about making games.

But what will change, Jason?
Your game, or your vision for it?
They are two different concepts.

One day you talk about having civilization arise naturally from your game, the other you force it to in complete opposition of yesterday.
One day you talk about this game not being made for PVP, the other you insist that PVP is necessary.
Which is it?

I know you've registered pretty recently so perhaps you didn't get to observe datruf for as long as we did.
But let me tell you this: this guy lies as easily as he breathes.
Don't even bother. Don't even believe the answer he's going to give you, if any at all and if it's different from just "k".

His reason for the pitbull post changed like 3 or 4 times by now over the course of a month.

Come on, just look at this topic:

Yes, I agree, just like when it's always the community who keeps begging Jason to wipe your curse score everytime he posts, am I right?

Anyone with half a brain will realize that anything he says is obvious baiting.

This guy shitposts on the forum for breakfast.

Come on.. Ban him already..