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Agree strongly on the need to dump useless bowl contents.  Not being able to do so makes no sense.  Currently its mostly done by useless newbies who dont realise we have zero use in practice for bowls of oil palm kernels, but once greifers realise how easy it is to destroy the entire bowl supply of a city...

Jungles aren't all THAT easy.   Yes, -I- can survive forever in the jungle, and have done so for several lifetimes, I have no problems raising a full batch of kids there, the problem is that most of the kids die.  I have raised 4 entire broods now (keeping them all) in jungles rich in bananas.  I have never had more than three reach adulthood, normally less than that.   And this is with me explaining fever, and cures and feeding the stupid fever victims repeatedly.

Can we please discuss this on one place only, I suggest reddit as as said, this thread is about ranting and getting it out of one systems about newbies dying next to food.

To be fair a lot of them died from yellow fever. I suspect some of the others probably got yellow fever dropped all their items(because that is what they did) and then starved shortly after recovering. So it said starved but was really yellow fever too. In generation three 2 people died to snake, 1 yellow fever, 1 wolf, and only 1 starved.

So food wasn't really the only issue going on there.

The tutorial is very berry based, all over the tutorial there are berries to sustain from, except of one onion and a carrot when talking about food variation.

I suppose most newer player subconsciously carry this over to game play.. you life mostly from berries...

In my opinion the tutorial should include cooking at least popcorn and provide a variety of food sources on the go instead of a berry bush on every corner.

How do you die from STARVATION when you're literally drowning in food all over the place.

I have died many times of starvation because I was out on a mission while still young and misjudged how far I could go / how much I could do before I had to return to the food and eat. This is possible no matter how much food there is in town; all the food in the world does you no good if you have three pips left in your meter and you're four pips away.

I'm much better at managing my food bar now, but it's a skill and it takes time and practice to develop that skill. Newbies die for lots of reasons, but that's certainly a big one.

I think the transition from berries to other food is complicated for many people.  Berries are nice for new people because there is a kind of ebb and flow to it.  You eat berries.  You eat the last berry.  You add soil.  You water.  But even omlettes (which are pretty darn easy) are hard to figure out for a lot of people.  When you are set up, you have a flat stone near the fire and a whole stack of plates.  But you have to wait for the coals before you can cook the eggs.  And afterwards you need to start the fire again and then go wandering around gathering eggs.  You can be omlette boy or girl for about 2 minutes and then often you never do it again.

Other foods are even more complicated.  Probably the only super easy one is popcorn.  I'm surprised that more cities aren't prioritising popcorn as it's another kind of "gateway" food.  It's an easy process to remember and to get into.  But I think a lot of experienced players concentrate too much on optimising processes with the assumption that people are able and willing to cooperate.  I think there needs to be more emphasis on the social aspect.  How can I set this up so even a noob can do it?  How can I get people to *want* to try something new rather than to gobble berries all day?

That's my impression, anyway.

Goose eggs are fine. Unlike bananas you will eventually get to the point where goose eggs (along with raw rabbits) end up becoming clutter around the town. So much of the game is based around making food that when you accidentally add god mode food sources there ends up being nothing to do. A town can only have one blacksmith due to iron shortages, you don't need a shepherd, baker, or farmers because why put in the effort when the 30 banana trees around town outproduce you by a mile.

Floofy wrote:

I found a big jungle where the middle didn't have mosquitoes (or very little of them). Then me and my kids put bananas literally everywhere in that jungle. Must have been like 30 bananas on the ground.

The strategy was for the girls to literally stay in the middle and do nothing but eat bananas, and the guys could go ahead and expand our banana empire (since their death wasn't an issue).

When i had kids, i would literally hold them in my arm the whole time since i didn't really need to work at all. This led me to a very low baby death rate. Once my girls kids were childs, i instructed them to stay in the middle with me and do nothing.

I spawned into a camp like that; maybe it was yours. My mother was roleplaying it to the hilt, and talked about how her mother had traveled from the East to raise a new family in the jungle. But my mother didn't say anything about staying there and doing nothing, and there was already a kiln built right there in the middle of the jungle. There was also a fire kit, some unfired clay bowls, and a chunk of iron ore, but otherwise it was all unused! So I assumed without thinking about it that of course we needed to tech up and start farming, so I started working on clay and steel.

It was a disaster.

There was no room to work in the small cleared space in the jungle. Leaves and tinder were too far away. Tools kept getting lost in the clutter or picked up and taken away. Mosquitos broke through the "banana barrier" from time to time and interrupted everything. Nobody was fetching clay, adobe, iron, or kindling. I died at 59 having made a single cold iron bloom.

If mom had said something like "We're going to stay in here and make nothing", or if the halfway-started fire/kiln/forge setup hadn't been there already, I wouldn't have tried to finish it. Or I would have moved somewhere else to set it up. But as it was I simply died thinking that my ancestors must have been insane to try to make a camp in a tiny space in the middle of the jungle.

This was me: http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=1996024 - My sister's lineage made it another five generations; no idea if they stayed in the jungle munching bananas or not.

Right now, I think we should keep the bananas as they are and focus on updating other stuff. I was able to get a good base set up because I had the bananas. One thing that I struggled with in the past when trying to get a base running was that I was too slow to get everything done that needed to be done. Juggling babies while trying to get a fire-drill and ovens and farms started up was extremely difficult and the berries ran out so quick. The bananas offer me a way to raise some kids who can actually help me set up a base and farm outside the jungle without depleting the area of food and dooming everyone to starvation.
Maybe I'm just bad, but the game is already at a really high difficulty level for me. What I would personally rather see right now rather than change the game to increase its difficulty is more expansions on the tech tree. Civilizations hit a technological 'brick wall' at some point and slowly, but surely, deplete the land of its resources as you run out of ponds to build wells on and trees to cut down. Maybe a pump to bring water from the ground? Or more ways to get iron, a rarity nowadays. The game is already hard, add some things that make it easier in the technological section and then nerf natural resources like bananas.

EDIT: Also, maybe add stuff that helps with civilizations migrating! That could fix the water problem as well. Make it so caravans of nomads can exists or roads of trades between towns happen, like the good old days.