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the one I use is darker, don't have a small preview of the sprite, somewhy is really lighter than the sprite, might be because my overlay

the eggbb is cabbage stack

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I like the pine floors, they limit the plants, so it's often used, I really hated the brown edge sprite so I changed right away

The game is same as before but it should be better by now.

Griefing was never fun fr both sides, killing was fun when it was skill-based. at least noob griefers were easy to kill.

The content was sliced and diced into races and some of them are weird to even make like tattoos need saltwater and cow piss needs a leaf. They are not essential so they never get made.

The part Jason doesn't understand, you won't teach others to make these upgrades, they either know it or not, there is no trading or interaction

Most skill-based activities went out the window,  no horses, no duels, no engine making cause slots.

Meanwhile, people became better at the game, while the new players are very bad still.

Probably just-food is better than before, we got a whole lot of nerfs and optimizations to the rift, every other action is nerfed to the ground.

engine scrapping and removal also bad, generally jason values time and interactions at zero.

I got cursed for complaining. I wanted to cook rubber, they were too stupid to know what that is and they kept taking it outside the bakery, so I cursed the guy running around 10 minutes with the cart filled with raw rubber

next life I guess it was him, maybe he has mistaken me with someone maybe not, the butthurt idiot went and made up some excuses to get me cursed multiple time. I really think the abusers of this system would deserve Perma bans.

twisted, homelands was your idea no? what was the original concept?

other than blocking mixed families there is no point of it
which I kinda understand with the race concept, and I don't mind being infertile

butt blocking outposts with the iron change was bad, I don't like to stick with other peoples choices, mine won't matter that much then, I do wish sometimes I could start a new town anywhere

I understand that won't solve problems, but maybe a collective choice to move could be viable

I see the confusion created by homelands, very unintuitive to have it pop up and disappear, and bam you infertile, or I even had that as a male that I claimed an outpost then invited a girl, and she didn't see where she went infertile than fertile again since we used horses

I wish we would have zones on the map, each zone could be an amorf shape territory with a central well/mine
you could claim two as eve, then each new one would cost something, splitting would be possible but you would need some starting resources, like a colony stagecoach, shovel, axe, ten stones, bucket, fire tools, some food, etc. when you assemble it, you could use it to drive to a new location and start as a pseudo eve, maybe you would need 2 persons, one male one female and would drop you somewhere else on the map

it would create some strategic layer to have different mines and resources around, like a clay mine or flat rock mine.
families would have a choice and a chance to specialize.

race restrictions could be reworked as race advantages, not a monopoly over biomes, but a cheaper buyout price, so you could get 2 jungles or 1 normal biome as a lattino person, or 2 ice biomes as ginger, while others just 1.
I guess some map changes would be needed, like no fragmented biomes and restrict their sizes between a minimum and maximum size, even fixed or scaling. say you want to claim a desert to enter it, it has say 300 tiles, you pay 300 shmeckels or whatever currency to claim it. you would get a big sulfur hole in the middle which gives you constant sulfur or an oasis or whatever. you could buy any connected zone, the borders would extend, this would require that the biomes are separated into bite-size portions that got a cost. you can interact with what you own, you can't what you don't, but you can change that after a time.
this would make work and skill and decisions matter, build an empire. these 100x100 squares are bs, you don't use it all, just limits you inside kinda forever. eves got the only high authority choices, if yours is a noob, you need one that was lucky/good but died. expansion is free but not required or motivated by gameplay. while resources totally out of your hand, not just limited, totally killed. I don't like the race restrictions cause there is no workaround, it would work better if you could somehow get some rubber on your own but a bit harder than others, but you would have your own bonus that is harder for others. a soft resttricttion while the main content is available for everyone, then you coul plan long term.

take it like this: if you collect all the food in the town and do a sample you might get around 10-15 types
which feeds 15 people once and maybe 5 more for 10 chain

now you make yourself one plate, by coincidence, some others get a share of it, but it's effectively still not more than 3-4 people
variety should mean overall sustainable variety not personal unique for a select few
now I don feel good about the yum process, Im okay with having the bonus but it's a bit annoying to track it especially vanilla
you can't expect everyone to cook in oven or hot flat rock or coals but a bonus like this kinda forces you too

if it would be a lower chain, then you could have sustainable 10 foods and some more to make up another 5, when your maximum chain is lower, the focus would shift to any 10 foods and not "unlimited unique" foods since you could choose any 10 combos. the bonus is way too high and the base value way too low, when there are a few portable foods is kinda bad to go out with 3 pies since gives you barely any value.

I mean rift wasn't that bad, but the sizing was poor, 250 then 760 radii was too small, you can cut all trees and poke all bears in that, it's not really he size is the problem cause we still occupy an 1000x3000 stripe for the most part and invisible borders to the family are worse than visible limitations, especially if you could cross them somehow using the techs, like rivers and mountains but with passages and bridges

bells are okay if you use hetuw, you can track coordinates.
expert way stones are way too easy, it eliminates exploration
maybe a minimap could hold towns as a dot on a big map then they would be close but still separated, I'm not a fan of travelling with no reason, might as well have one map per family if we got all these limitations

it can be a different category than fulfils a goal even if its not useful, it's easier to balance a different system that unlocks some content than to incorporate a price for every item we got.

but just having more main resources that are needed for tech and tech that is needed to advance so you convert them all the time into higher and higher value items would be fine.

I never enjoyed stealing or get stolen from me, not in a way that takes no skill or challenge. jason seems to enjoy assholes running around choosing the easy way to piss off others.

more metals would be nice

and I guess some sort of turf/zone system that has a central resource that allows you to go in a tech pah different than others

water as the main resource is bad, it was better as a low-value resource, work had meaning, it can not function both on a low and high end since it affects low end where people want to be useful but they cannot be since their activity is not optimal enough so their value is less than nothing while all they want is to help

multiple resources would make converting viable and upgrades would make tech more varied

well, if you know what he is referring to then you understand better

miskas is happy about his idea getting implemented, and that can be a sign of hope, att least for him

few things that happened before. i went on a little rampage on github, questioning some food values, mainly corn and grapes
we got the corn buff right before the change on foods and luckily it stayed over the rework. my main reasoning was that corn has more trouble, work and its an ideal food for uncles to feed the little abandoned kids, so it deserves to be above berries.

the conversation on grapes went differently, Jason refused that, I still think the level of tech needed for grapes, would indicate a way better value than now, but he refused since it does not need soil and shears got 2x the uses. Soil worth 25% of water and the main ingredient of compost is still water, nerfing compost with dung then with the output nerf from 10 to 8 to 7 was also big, and indirect nerfs through water nerfs really made it less and less valuable. So "not needing soil" is a 25% bonus to a crop type but that value is low when the main food value is low. Shears last 2x longer, but they also need 2 blades and give back half of the steel only, it is kinda confusing, since on uses they still make up for it, on the value they are worse when they break, but after around 30-32 shears vs hoes or axes yo usee the difference, that the steel usage is worse.

Jason mentioned on one of these topics that he had a spreadsheet with tool costs and soil/water. Miskas made a topic about the values and he worked on a spreadsheet ever since the game was adjusted, and I showed Jason that. Then Miskas posted more ideas and Jason finally reworked the food values.

Now the new values seem more balanced with the efforts, and the needs, placing foods in better order. But the nerfs coming with it made yum not just more needed, but basically the only way to stay alive. It's a different concept than before, it certainly feels a bit better. I would still argue that we would need a better raw value and less benefit from yum, so it would do what it was intended to do in the first place: increase overall variety in-game. It still motivates selfish behaviour and cheats out bonus for a few people while others won't get any benefit from it.

So food is on a good spot, better than ever before, you get a bonus for each food you make, it's more balanced with work and tool usage, it has a system around it, but it still could be better. I think mainly it could be more dynamic so people are challenged to make one or other food in different scenarios, so they can enjoy a temporary bonus, and get rewarded for their adaptability. It's more punishing on new players and the ones who play generic and don't care much about it. And Jason understood that punishing players for bad choices won't work so he refuses the concept of YUCK or Yam or whatever, that breaking chains or overdoing one type should be punishing, because it already is. But let's be real, we are eating way more food and we don't have time for other activities, and that's just slowing players down, and delaying to address the other issues with the game. If you advance at a slower pace, don't have tool slots and cant enter biomes, you eat more than you won't have extra time to notice how bad the late game is actually. And instead of having more things to do and more resource sinks and requirements to fulfil, things to upgrade, value to stack, you must play the same game but you never got a chance to reach the end game. Which is basically Jason optimizing the game for new starters, and pissing off veterans.

This statement isn't true, the game isn't better, but the food is better in some ways.

Not sure where I felt the game is actually better, maybe the introduction of jungles was the last time when I was happy about a change and felt its interesting content. You got the minigame of clearing the jungle, blocking the mosquitoes and moving inside for a real bonus, the only warmth bonus that worth it, the perfect middle. Eventually, that was changes so that can be a melatonin based restricted content, just so Jason doesn't have to make parallel techs and more varied gameplay to please the older players. Everyone was asking for a similar idea but his implementation was lazy and simplified and quite annoying.

We got a lot of fixes and stacks, and he is going through the issues fast, but he still refuses to add anything above our current tech, additional interactions, requirements, rewards, minigames, activities. And this is the time he should introduce something major.

im ok with the premise, but jason killed most skill-based activities, the duels, the exploration, the horse techs

i remember when he added the well and the bucket, that was my idea, something that linked together higher-tech, gave some options after the well.
but then the rift age  introduced more nerfs to renewable resources, more generic map and gameplay then even when we got out of rift they stayed
the next well upgrade was similar, something that requires more skill and work, but adds more tech, then Jason went silent and no other upgrades or techs, dead content and useless toys

meanwhile, player skill went up, you are not the only pen maker or smith, engine maker, even your options are limited with slots, living to 60 isn't an accomplishment anymore

the latest iron tech is also removing a 4x element and that's kinda sad, exploration and gathering isn't paying off, most activities and playtime isn't rewarded and the resources are fixed, so the more people the less time you got

also, the map feels weird right now, we are close but we are forced out because of the resources, and we die over and over so high-level strategy and organization is  dead

i think some sort of skill-based team fights would be nice, castle sieges, territory control, some sort of periodical teams over lives, a little bit of continuity and world-building, a competition to rule them all, even if the world gets wiped more often, a win condition, not just delaying the demise

more building, wood, stone clay techs and generally different eras and higher scale problems
he tries to force scarcity the wrong way, without ever entering a higher-tech era and having different problems or choices.

yeah, i had this idea long long long ago
oil to produce more stuff like plastic and asphalt (real life it has like 30 different uses)
might need to be more oil for same cost but more usages

then the machine could lay straight roads
the downside could be that you need to clear the way in front of it or it wouldn't go forward, that is possible other than laylines (cross one tile only)

flat rocks won't work since you got a conflict with graves and smithies and cooking, also collecting them is 90% of the job, putting them down is 10%
could be a car with 2 large pulleys and 2 small on the back or 2 more large. and an asphalt tank

alternatively cement/sand mixture with water

Whether you running away or toward something, you are affected by it. Whether you know or don't, everything has a logical explanation, even the instincts, pattern recognition can be instinctive or logical. The latter is way better because you don't feed yourself bullshit like fate.

you want to move fast to gather or explore
both activities would be an uncertain distance
you could technically gather with a car, but you spend most of the time loading it so you would waste the time anyway
10 minutes vs 2 minutes doesn't matter, when people live at x minutes, both times the excess time is lost after they arrive
stopping the engine would be better, either a time based or a distance-based usage

the other problem is the removable engines can be destroyed easily, same as wells, both are horrible and useless changes.

i can understand why you would use an already made engine on a well, but still, if I want a car, it should be a car for eternity, make your own engine for the well, that one has no reason to be removed, like why the heck would you want iron without water? and if you want both then make 2nd engine and don't destroy an hour of work for your stupid laziness

my other idea was to link cars to connected roads. they could move on roads forever but couldn't go off, that would give a reason for roads and cars wouldn't be lost

to be fair, cars need a kerosene tank too, so when you stop you can go back so that is also a bad design not having a built-in tank for more juice
just based on number of wheels, cars would need 16 items slots.

and probably a key to turn them on/off and prevent others to steal them, like horses, which is apparently not a problem that idiots follow you and steal them
Jason thinks that visiting other towns you will spend 5 minutes to build a fence to keep your horse there and make that on a distance so others won't see it all the time and walk back and forth on foot.
The whole point o horses is saving time, not that you spend slots to make one then the first idiot 13 years old runs away with it. Horses are also loyal to their owner, this idiotic action of people who run after you swap or steal your horse and leave you in middle of nowhere is the dumbest action imaginable and annoys me to no end. Oh you can eat on horse cause unrealistic, oh you cant hold the rope because unrealistic.

Oh you can be an expert of eating a banana cause you are born with more melatonin. Oh you cant step inside a different colour tile so you can trade. Maaan the dumb shit we get for no logical reasons.