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Killing people because they are being useless is just a c**t move. in fact, I would say you are worse than the people doing nothing. you could banish those people, you could be a leader and organize those people, they may just be new players. Maybe we have found out who is doing all the murdering.

and Neo i am glad someone agrees that Pein has a weird obsession with power gaming OHOL, A game where you live ONE HOUR in a town you are likely not gonna see again.

Is there a good reason why there are things that are impassable? surely walls/fences are the only things that should be?

I get that trash pits are like holes, and you don't want people to stand on them, but surely you could prevent people standing on the tile but being able to walk over it? IE not being able to click on them but able to path-find through them.
#BringBackFencedPens

You do know that if you have the ability to heal yourself so does the murderer, BUT it is unlikely that someone will heal the murderer but will heal victims. This basically fixes the problem, but if you can heal yourself then everyone becomes unkillable including the murder, not achieving anything. and what the fuck is the point in putting murder into the game if he is just gonna make it impossible to kill anyone. and as stats show, murder isn't such a big problem as everyone makes it out to be.

You are born; you cry; you grow; you learn; you help; you craft; you build; you live; you birth; you nurse; you teach; you lead; you morn; you cry; you watch; you grey; you die.

In a world built by parents of the past for children of the future, societies must strive towards technologies of tomorrow to solve the problems of yesterday.

Narr the idea silly, you should probs focus on resources based in each biome and making players have to travel or trade of those resources.
I love the idea of larger biomes, hate the idea of being able to survive in all biomes.

could lead to cool things working out like..
(using salt as an example)
You have the main town and a "Salt town" both are apart of the same family.
The salt town is located near a snow biome for fast access to ice water. and the main town is a medium walk area (due to larger biomes)
Main town sends a few sons to work a salt town.
Salt town produces salt and swaps it for food from the main town.
(The dream, reality it probs wont work for many reasons but you know, having fun with imagination)

I hate the idea of being able to live in any biome as its not true, you can't live in every biome, or well at least prosper. Snow and desert biomes should be more deadly, the cold and heat should really affect people.

Swamps I feel are just kinda pointless when people say swamp they mean water, so whats the point in having a biome for one reason, just for the sake of having multiple biomes?
I feel like rivers and oceans would be a better and more realistic way of doing so but this basically destroys your current work and stops the whole "Water tech tree".
the only biome that should also be livable is hearthland (rabbit land) which all that takes is just adding branches their trees and spawning items there. maybe a different type of berry bush but that's about it.

from a technical point of view, you won't need to add x6 more items, you just need to make "reskins" of the base resources EG the ice biome may have, I don't know, dead roots that when put together makes a thread for example. You don't have to make a whole new tech tree for each biome like you are saying.

I have mentioned before in a few posts,
with the introduction to decay, the future tech could lead towards items that decay less OR produce more.

EG Whats the point in making steel tools, because of they last longer.

However, ATM we do not see any "ages" or steps, because tech atm can be rushed in a generation or two. Thus, there needs to be a way of delaying this progress, bare with me on this.
there are a few ways to do this without truly destroying the feel of the game, each "life" must feel like they are progressing, however, progression must have a limit per life. This is where I believe Delay times for stations should be a thing, EG a kiln should take 30 mins to "set" before being usable AND also having a number of uses. This solves two things. ONE; timers on these structures would halt progression only for a generation or so (You have it for the bell tower why not others) and Two; gives you a doorway to future tech, EG a metal kiln that has not set time AND more uses, this means villages have to progress to these future techs because they cant just keep using clay kilns, same way you cant keep using stone tools.

I know alot of people hate the idea of being stopped progressing, BUT there should always be something for people to progress to.. you are born in a town with no clay stations you build them. you are born into a town with kilns, you can use them kilns to progress to steel. you are born in a town with steel you can progress to metal stations (bare in mind new stations will have new recipes too).. etc.. etc.. it shouldn't be able to be done in one or two generations. it should mean something when you spawn into a village that has progressed to steel "OH SHIT SON THIS TOWN IS LIKE 10 HOURS ALONG"

Basically, you are adding another reason to progress to use better items to save "Time" and increase "uses" (thus slowing down resource usage) always pushing towards the longer lasting items however these new techs would be slow to get to thus making the progression more meaningful, like when you see a built bell tower.

I understand that this may not be your mindset for the game however without this you will end up with villages having clay kilns while using engines, but it's your game, just throwing some ideas around.

Ah nice to know, good job.

strange how that works out.

kinda, so floors give heat?

What i was saying is do the same test, in a room and then do it outside and compare the heat,

So let's say you have a fire, inside a 5x5 right in the middle of the room, log the temps

Then make a fire outside with 5x5 space near it on the same biome as the house is built on and log temp of each tile. if you know floors give an extra 0.10 heat, you can work out if the walls actually do anything to help too.

Thus we could conclude if building rooms are worthless is better just build fences or corners of the house for segmenting professions

Honestly Pein, stop encouraging this horrible idea of pit/graves walls, it's the ugliest shit I have ever seen. Fences are cheap, it's literally a little bit of gathering, its one more step over a pit
You still need a shovel, you still need to hit stakes with a hammer, why can't you just go collect some bloody branches for that sake of not making towns look like shit.
just because you cant be arsed to gather, don't punish the rest of us who like nice looking towns. plus pit pens take ages to fix up too, they are just the worst please stop.

on a side, note I like your idea oh a "bank" basically, but again would only really work on private servers.

As more tech Is added I am sure one day he will consider some sort of trading/banter mechanic that allows us to control our logistics, for now just be happy with Sauerkraut.

internal trading wont work, there is nothing stopping people from stealing your pies you made, unless you lock it, but people can still make keys and rob you AND what happens if you die collecting something away from town like water and you lose the key for your trainee, plus once there is more then a couple of "shops" people will have duplicate keys.

I love the idea, but in practice does not work. the best way to implement this is spreading your "shops" some distance apart where horse and carts are needed for transporting it, EG.

A Miller brings you flour for Pies
A shepherd brings you mutton for pies

You can then also trade pies for clothes, tools etc from other people.

HOWEVER. This will never happen.
1. You will always have to have a eve camp where everyone shares and crafts things.
2. you can't organize a town of this scale in one life
3. in most cases, your trainnee will die or not understand whats going on.
4. Buildings take a while to build, Also, Experts who know how to basket/box craft with one crafting tile only need small spaces to work HOWEVER the trainee may not be as good.
5. Its risky business forcing people to trade for food, you will just get murdered by anyone who really needs the food or Thinks that the town is starving.
6. Again, cannot do this in one lifetime.

Town trading is nice, I have seen it happen multiple times when big towns get too populated and food gets low, people just grab a basket and run for the hills, some survive and make new villages later to trade with the big town.

its selfish and there is no reason to trade, You don't make a profit you have no skill set that someone else cant do, as soon as you say "yeah you cant have this unless you give me flour" they will just make their own pies with that flour. Specialization is key to commerce its econ 101, and there is no skill trees here.

Maybe we should focus on town trading. Food trading probs is a bad idea, each town should have its own food network, but there is no reason why a well-off town can trade food to another town for these items. however Tools or clothes, even people can be traded. I once bought a small girl with a cart of a full set of clothes as our village had no females.

Another point should be made that lives are short, unless roads are made to each town, then trading wont last long, also towns can change within a generation, One min there is a baker making carts of pies, but then the shepherd dies so no mutton then the baker dies and no one takes over..

If Jason Makes barter stands, would be a great idea EG You put a basket of pies on it and ask for a bowl of flour, I can see how this would be implemented and think it would work well.
EG, you cannot swap with the item on the stand unless you are swapping with the item it is asking for, would improve logistics. I personally would love it, but I don't know if it has its place here. we have keys so Jason must think there is a need for personal chests. this would give people a reason to use them apart from to hide tools from griefers. 

I just know for a fact, that if trading was implemented, towns would die out fast or people would just not bother with it, Yes its easier to Trade flour for three pies but what happens when you start laking? no pies left at the store, fuck it ill make my own and give them out for free.

This game is NOT a CIV building game, it isn't and people who tell you otherwise clearly haven't played it enough, there is no way to translate your plans for a town through generations and EVERY town ends up being a mess until and pro player comes along decided to organise it, but that only lasts like 20 mins until the next gen is born.

Jesus that was a long post. XD sorry about the spelling error i cba to proof read.

He has fixed it, check update log